FT470.9 I've learned that one of the ways to get some of the other, new Yaesu handhelds to go out-of-band, involves dumping data out of the clone port, editing the data, and then dumping it back in. I called Yeasu and asked if the FT-470 could be cloned. They said no, so I ignored them. I haven't figured out how to get it to dump data, but I believe it will accept data. The clone mode is entered by powering up the unit with the F key held down. (It's also a neat way to see all of the indicators on the LCD!) The data must be presented in the ring ("right channel") of a stereo 2.5 millimeter plug which is placed into the mic jack. This is cryptically marked on the schematic, anyway. However, I have no idea what the format for the data should be. If you come across this, I'd love to know. This may be the trap door to getting the rig to receive and transmit in more interesting places. Have fun with your FT-470! Yours Truly, Ed Boakes CAll: WB3FLD =======================================================-- Several interesting things that I have learned since I received this letter... According to the guys at Yaesu, the engineers in Japan appearantly wrote the full UHF rx/tx out of the ROM on purpose. The unit does a very good job as a cross-band repeater. To enable this, turn off the radio, hold the RPT key and turn on the radio. Now, anything heard on EITHER band will be re-transmitted on the other band. There are, however, a few problems. First, there is no real internal path for the audio to get from the receiver to the transmitter, so you either have to modify the radio, to provide a path, or do what I did which is build a short loop back cable connecting the tip of the earphone jack to the tip of the microphone jack like this: <=====----/\/\/\/\/\/\/=====----> 100K This is the way I did it, others I have talked to have used either just a resistor like me or a small capacitor, or a combination. On my radio, this value of resistor gave me a good range of transmitted audio levels by adjusting the volume control. The other small problem is that the radio automatically selects low power on transmit in this mode. This is probably because of the lack of a real duplexer. After looking through the service manual, it became apparent that the small mystery hole on the side of the radio with the rubber plug was originally intended for an external power jack. I have not yet asked Yaesu if they will sell the jack for that spot. I also have no idea why they omitted it. All in all, I still love my FT-470. Its a great little radio.